Comments on: Healthcare in France http://capitolcommentary.com/2009/09/05/healthcare-in-france/ A smaller government is a better government. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 06:39:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Harrison http://capitolcommentary.com/2009/09/05/healthcare-in-france/#comment-1709 Harrison Sun, 06 Sep 2009 15:50:40 +0000 http://harrisonprice.com/?p=2132#comment-1709 You probably already paid some taxes being an EU resident. Brits living in France do not have to pay all the taxes the French do because they are EU citizens. Still, you did not dispute, with facts, any of the statistics in the editorial. "Funding. Most of the funding is from a 13.55% payroll tax (employers pay 12.8%, individuals pay 0.75%). There is a 5.25% general social contribution tax on income as well. Thus, there is an approximately a 18.8% on employees for health insurance. There are also dedicated taxes which are assessed on tobacco, alcohol, and pharmaceutical company revenues." http://healthcare-economist.com/2008/04/14/health-care-around-the-world-france/ You probably already paid some taxes being an EU resident. Brits living in France do not have to pay all the taxes the French do because they are EU citizens.

Still, you did not dispute, with facts, any of the statistics in the editorial.

“Funding. Most of the funding is from a 13.55% payroll tax (employers pay 12.8%, individuals pay 0.75%). There is a 5.25% general social contribution tax on income as well. Thus, there is an approximately a 18.8% on employees for health insurance. There are also dedicated taxes which are assessed on tobacco, alcohol, and pharmaceutical company revenues.”

http://healthcare-economist.com/2008/04/14/health-care-around-the-world-france/

]]> By: Hans http://capitolcommentary.com/2009/09/05/healthcare-in-france/#comment-1708 Hans Sun, 06 Sep 2009 07:26:34 +0000 http://harrisonprice.com/?p=2132#comment-1708 What a b.shit and biased article (FYI: I WORKED (not studied) and lived in France. I know what I had to pay, I know their service through co-workers, my wife is Managing Director Turkey of a French company (and get paid accordingly ?ncl benefits, I know that the French are prejudice against Americans and I know that the USA is prejudice against France, but please come with some reliable sources. This guy from 'CityJournal' talks loud but with a lot of noise...and its untrue. Keeping on Dreaming Americans..))! Kindest hans .-= Hans´s last blog ..<a href="http://internationmusing.blogspot.com/2009/09/day-opening-september-6.html" rel="nofollow">Day Opening - September 6</a> =-. What a b.shit and biased article (FYI: I WORKED (not studied) and lived in France. I know what I had to pay, I know their service through co-workers, my wife is Managing Director Turkey of a French company (and get paid accordingly ?ncl benefits, I know that the French are prejudice against Americans and I know that the USA is prejudice against France, but please come with some reliable sources.
This guy from ‘CityJournal’ talks loud but with a lot of noise…and its untrue. Keeping on Dreaming Americans..))!
Kindest
hans
.-= Hans´s last blog ..Day Opening – September 6 =-.

]]> By: vulcanhammer http://capitolcommentary.com/2009/09/05/healthcare-in-france/#comment-1707 vulcanhammer Sat, 05 Sep 2009 20:25:28 +0000 http://harrisonprice.com/?p=2132#comment-1707 The French system has a host of issues that are correctly pointed out in this article. ObamaCare advocates continuously praise the French system without <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124958049241511735.html" rel="nofollow">elaborating on its dire cost issues</a>. I have two points: On the issue of American drugs and American patients subsidizing French patients, this has long been a “free rider” problem that has been rarely addressed by both sides of the health care argument. Nationalized health care systems have been free riding on American research and development for years and since taxpayers subsidize R&D through direct taxes or tax credits, we are in some ways getting shafted by all sides: Drug companies, nationalized health care systems, and our own HC system. Something to think about. Lastly, on the point of the cost of labor. To be fair, health care costs are reflected in overall labor costs in the U.S. by lowered wages too. The key issue here is a matter of efficient cost containment. Does a state run system contain costs (via competitive forces that have a downward pressure on prices) enough so that wages and companies aren’t taxed too heavily to stymie economic growth and medical innovation? The answer from the French system it seems is negative. .-= vulcanhammer´s last blog ..<a href="http://vulcanhammer.blogspot.com/2009/09/best-post-ive-read-on-health-care-today.html" rel="nofollow">Best post I've read on health care today</a> =-. The French system has a host of issues that are correctly pointed out in this article. ObamaCare advocates continuously praise the French system without elaborating on its dire cost issues. I have two points: On the issue of American drugs and American patients subsidizing French patients, this has long been a “free rider” problem that has been rarely addressed by both sides of the health care argument. Nationalized health care systems have been free riding on American research and development for years and since taxpayers subsidize R&D through direct taxes or tax credits, we are in some ways getting shafted by all sides: Drug companies, nationalized health care systems, and our own HC system. Something to think about.

Lastly, on the point of the cost of labor. To be fair, health care costs are reflected in overall labor costs in the U.S. by lowered wages too. The key issue here is a matter of efficient cost containment. Does a state run system contain costs (via competitive forces that have a downward pressure on prices) enough so that wages and companies aren’t taxed too heavily to stymie economic growth and medical innovation? The answer from the French system it seems is negative.
.-= vulcanhammer´s last blog ..Best post I’ve read on health care today =-.

]]> By: theLibertyPen http://capitolcommentary.com/2009/09/05/healthcare-in-france/#comment-1706 theLibertyPen Sat, 05 Sep 2009 19:37:11 +0000 http://harrisonprice.com/?p=2132#comment-1706 A glimpse of our future yet to manifest? Or a warning crying out for attention? I think it is both. A glimpse of our future yet to manifest? Or a warning crying out for attention? I think it is both.

]]> By: Forgotten Liberty http://capitolcommentary.com/2009/09/05/healthcare-in-france/#comment-1705 Forgotten Liberty Sat, 05 Sep 2009 16:43:33 +0000 http://harrisonprice.com/?p=2132#comment-1705 Viva La American Health Care! .-= Forgotten Liberty´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Forgottenlibertycom/~3/0pcp7qg2Ngs/" rel="nofollow">Obama’s Speech to School Children, What Will He Say?</a> =-. Viva La American Health Care!
.-= Forgotten Liberty´s last blog ..Obama’s Speech to School Children, What Will He Say? =-.

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